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11/12/2007
Biosecurity Minister Jim Anderton said last night that a small number of people were mildly affected by the spraying and some were relocated, receiving any necessary medical attention and being monitored.

Get your facts right Jim, perhaps you might like read the list of symptoms at the bottom of this page. Are you ready to take the responsibility for your part in killing children and good people even if it is only "a small number" Jim? because that is what you have done. Soon you will find it is a great deal more than "a small number"!
A conscience is free but having none costs everyone!
Will politicians ever learn that it is totally unacceptable to regard human lives as expendable statistics.

Jim you liken the moths to foot and mouth, if that is your version of scientific prowess we have more serious problems than moths or foot and mouth. Foot and mouth disease is immensely scientifically different from all moths, moths can be caught, tracked and contained by pheromone trapping.
It is not necessary to spray the population to stop foot and mouth, (nor should it be to stop the moths incidently), your analogy is seriously (Jim's favourite word) in a vain attempt to gain credibility) flawed Jim.
The female painted apple moth doesn't even fly Jim so they don't venture far from where they originate unless someone helps them! I wonder who that could have been? Maybe Ruth knows but she isn't saying anything. Besides not being able to fly ,their preferred food source is the black wattle, not pine forests or garden produce, black wattle is not a commercially cultivated product, where is the ten billion dollar risk Jim? Moths have some way of magically turning into foot and mouth disease according to Jim and his advisors.

If you had questioned the health issues as you would question someone selling you a car Jim and given it equally serious thought you would have easily come to know these sprays are dangerous in chemical nature and genetically combined with other DNA from organisms that are extremely harmful to people. If you didn't know Jim you have been remiss, if you didn't bother to find out makes you both remiss and a liar.
Jim, you lie by omission of facts, your statement that "there are no known long term effects".
Making the statement at all gives a false impression that there are no long term effects, the fact that has been omitted is that no long term studies have been done so no facts are known about the long term effects that does not mean there are none and in truth Jim, you would have told people there had been no studies done. Simon Hales raised concerns on your and government's behalf about long term effects, he was ostracized, ignored and now out of harms way in Britain, thanks for trying anyway Simon. Simon provides statistical data only on asthma/pneumonia (here) There needs to be other studies on many other symptoms overlooked by this study.

Undeniable evidence that BT toxins are harmful to man were published in 1999 - Field workers exposed to Bt spray experienced allergic skin sensitization and induction of IgE and IgG antibodies to the spray, a Bt strain that caused severe human necrosis (tissue death)
How is it that you did not find this information Jim?
There is also undeniable evidence that the plasmids of Bacillis thuringiensis, bacillis anthracis and bacillis cereus species may readily be transferred from one species to another.

Interesting that no-one has mentioned the environment yet, the runoff usually ends up in our sea, there are warnings even on the manufacturers safety label that foray kills marine life, ask or read Floor Anthoni about the degredation of Auckland waters since spraying officially began. Was the toxic algal bloom just coincidence when it occured a few months after spraying started?

You seriously regard the New Zealand public as stupid don't you Jim, company secrets outweigh the power and integrity of government? yeah right!
These companies own the patents to their concoctions so that nobody can replicate them without paying royalties, their patent data is freely available on the web, again you lie Jim! The truth is, you didn't want us to know the truth!
If you want the url's Jim, google it yourself, it isn't too hard even for a one finger typist!

If the government spent $20 million on a health service for these areas, don't you want to know where the money went Jim? because it sure as hell didn't go to the people who were effected and it still isn't.
These people are still paying for doctors bills for useless drugs and operations out of their own pockets because up until now they have not been able to prove that their ills are related to the spray, and the spineless unimaginitive medical fraternity won't stand up and say anything against it either.
Those suffering and those with dead relatives can't individually prove that the spray has made them ill or killed them because they do not have access to independent test equipment or the money to afford it.
You and your coleagues have brought the medical profession into serious disrepute because they are not allowed to say "it is a side effect of the spray" and none of them seem to have the intelligence to do their own research on it.
The reluctance of both the government statistics and medical boards to release or admit to having statistics on ailments and symptoms of any kind obviates the extent of gagging being carried out. We know they are lying simply because we know the information is collected and stored in databases, even if only to keeping statisticians in work!
If DHB's or government statistics have no figures on how many new diabetes patients were seen by doctors over the last year then someone is not doing their job properly are they!
We know you are not doing your job for the ordinary people of New Zealand Jim, you should be fired.
If you are as smart as you would have us believe, resign before the hole you are digging is too deep for you to get out of.
I have met plenty of ill people here who would gladly give you and quite a few others, a dose of each variant of foray straight in the face rather than mess about with the legal technicalities Jim, these people are hurting badly and some even dying as you read this.
You being at the top of the heap are ultimately responsible, your smartass rhetoric and denial will no longer alter their sense of betrayal you and those connected to this particular money trail have demonstrated. Biosecurity is supposed to protect people too Jim!

(the list for the "money trail" coming soon)

Here's a list of symptoms that can appear to be "of natural causes" but are related to the genetically altered organisms and constituents in the sprays that have been used.

visual impairment
eye irritation
discharge of tears (lacrimation)
itching in the ears
nose irritation, increased sneezing
nose bleeds without apparent cause
regular excessive nasal discharge
throat infections/ irritation
phlegm (without the symptoms of flu or cold)
flu like symptoms without significant rise in body temperature
swelling of the mouth, lips or tongue
bitter taste in the mouth
unusual thirst, dry mouth
Salivation ( excess saliva)
dermatitis (dry itchy skin)
necratizing sores (sores that won't heal -flesh eating)
yellow stained hair
weakness, exhaustion
muscle pain
decreased urine production
excessive urination
dark urine
conjunctivitis (pus in eyes)
hepatitis
meningitis
blood in urine
Albuminuria (raised albumin level in urine)
kidney inflamation (nephritis)
skin burns other than from excessive heat
blackened skin
skin tags
Seborrheic keratoses (yellow brown or black skin growths)
Thickening of the skin (hyperkeratosis)
rashes, hives, itching
Dental erosion, sore gums, loose teeth, teeth falling out
tonsillitis
Chronic bronchitis, Pneumonia
upper respiratory problems (wheezing)
tightness in the chest
Headaches, Dizziness, Nausea, migrain
Tinnitus (high pitched whistle or ringing in ears)
vomiting
stomach disturbance like food poisoning or bloating
leukemia
heart palpitations
Low red blood cell count (aplastic anemia)
other bone marrow disorders
lost limbs (arm leg etc)
chemical pneumonitis
hypernatremia (high sodium in blood)
low blood pressure
pneumonociosis / lung fibrosis
hypoxia - excess fluid in lungs
asthma
short term memory loss
inability to concentrate
confusion
delerium
paranoia
depression
shock
fear
anger, arguments, aggression (uncharacteristic)
chills
hot flushes
random shooting pains in, legs, arms, hands, feet, torso
Swelling of the stomach, pale or blue skin (grey syndrome in children)
refusal of baby to nurse on the breast
loose green or black stools or diarrhea
stiff spine or hips
Calcification of ligaments of ribs or pelvis
limp muscles
burning sensation in muscles
bone or joint infection
blood infection
boils
toxic shock syndrome
peritonitis
septasemia
low body temperature
bruising or bleeding
tiredness, listlessness, weakness
joint pain
anemia
diabetes
arthritis
weight loss
car accidents
Buildup of green or white mould/fungus inside your house, walls\closets
Bird population decrease, sparrows, mynah birds,
Less insects, moths, butterflies, bees
dead flies with white fungal infection
dead or dying ducks or ducklings
dead bald hedgehogs
plants dying or undersized
Tomatoes growing to mature size not ripening, turning black
less earthworms
more flatworms